CBP Shot and Killed Alex Pretti

 This week’s conversation centers around the Federal Agents in Minneapolis who shot and killed Alex Pretti. The fellas again discuss Trigger Happy Policing as they describe the Agents' actions. They discuss how the Trump Administration immediately sought to make the narrative its own.  They discuss the Administration's hypocrisy on the Second Amendment and the Federal Agent’s lack of compassion.

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This week's conversation centers around the federal agents in Minneapolis who shot and killed Alex Pretti. The fellas, again, talk about trigger heavily policing. In describing the agent's actions. They discuss how the Trump administration immediately sought to make the narrative its own. They discuss their administration's hypocrisy on the Second Amendment, and the federal agent's lack of compassion.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:30

What's going on, Keith?

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:31

Hey. Hey, tc. What's going on? Hey, Mike.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:34

What's

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:35

Hey, hey, tc. Hey Keith. Uh, one battle after another.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:40

It

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:41

One battle after another.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:43

That's

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:43

That's all I can say.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:46

I mean,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:46

And.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 0:46

Prepared to talk about a ton of other things, but I mean, week goes by and we cannot. Reflect on what has happened in the past as has now been part of our future. And here we go again. Basically.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:01

Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:02

I predicted it. It probably was the easiest thing ever to predict. I said, it is always gonna be something to talk about.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:09

Yeah, you

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:10

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:11

Hey, they gonna keep us talking and try to divert our attention from some of the other things that we really want to know about. So, you

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:19

Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:20

Is the plan and they're making it work.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 1:22

Last episode, trigger happy policing. And I hate the fact that we'd have to say this is part two of that because of what's happening within the last week. I don't wanna label that this episode that, I don't wanna say that because then that sets a precedent saying that this is gonna be the thing that's going on and some kind of way this has gotta get under control. I saw, a ton of videos since the incident and then I seen even more videos. Since I saw those videos. one of the things that I didn't see initially was the person that was inside of the car right in front of the incident that was happening.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:00

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:01

had a good view

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:02

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:02

her, from her perspective. And then of course the views from the other people that are standing off to the side.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:08

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:08

she, when they pushed the lady down, he was trying to assist the lady.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:12

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:13

I guess I should mention, Alex Pretti.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:15

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:16

Say that, we're discussing what happened to him last weekend saturday.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:21

Say

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:21

Correct.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:22

Say

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:22

Yeah. Say his name. I'm just like outdone. Here we are trying to have conversations about Pistons and University of Michigan basketball and how kids in high school are getting NIL money and find ourselves talking about current events that are just tragedies.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:41

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:41

taking place.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:42

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:43

I thought the guys who did the shooting were ice, but apparently custom border patrol, CBP,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:49

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:50

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:51

jurisdiction is a hundred miles of the border.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:55

Right.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 2:56

And so being in Minnesota, yeah, they close to Canada, but they're 300 miles away from Canada,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 3:00

Exactly.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 3:01

I don't understand how that reinforcement, I guess, for the federal government. I guess they didn't have enough ice agents to, complete the mission of, grabbing people off the streets, but here's the thing. My eyes saw what I saw and I was looking at something, I don't know if you guys remember George Orwell 1984.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 3:30

Yes.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 3:30

100%.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 3:31

It ties back into what Mike was saying not too long ago about the deceiving, but check this out. There's a quote inside that was a line inside the book. The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and your ears. their final most essential command, and if all others accepted lie, which the party imposed, if all records told the same tale, then the lie passed into history and became truth.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 3:57

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 3:59

Mike Miller. Tell me it's not true. Did my eyes deceive me.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 4:07

No one plus one is still two. One plus one is still two. And know your eyes did not deceive you. The untrained savages that inhabit ice and apparently CBP now, murdered him in cold blood right in front of everybody because they're operating with impunity. Nobody is holding them accountable individually. What we have now is the reason that you have so much outrage now is because, and I'm gonna say it because it's been said before, not by me, a white male was killed in the street. It wasn't this, it was a lot of outrage when Ms. Good was killed. But this, and of course this is the second one, so I could see this taking it over the top, but it's not, it doesn't, go unnoticed that it's a male this time lawfully carrying a gun with his permit. And I guess he did plan to go to the protest. At first. I didn't know that he actually did plan to attend that protest, and he did apparently from the statements that his parents are making. So he went to the protest, but he didn't, obviously didn't pull his gun out. And so for the CBP, Savage to start yelling gun, gun, gun, if that's all it takes is for one of'em to just to yell gun, and they all start shooting. You know what's next,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 5:51

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 5:52

you know,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 5:53

Right now they're slowly checking off the removal or treading our amendments. Our, 10 amendments of the Constitution out there, and they're slowly tr. on them. The first amendment, freedom of, speech,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:07

Yes.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:07

the right to bear arms. Number two,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:09

two. Number two,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:10

and Caesar,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:12

I.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:12

just slowly checking these things off.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:14

Well, the thing about number two is they're getting pushback on that one

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:18

Oh, yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:19

and, and

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:20

why that's the

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:21

yeah. Right. Because who has the power? The NRA

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:26

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:27

and it wasn't until late came out and said, whoa, player, back off

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:31

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:32

you. You can't do that.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:33

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:34

Yeah. That's when he starts saying, oh, I'm gonna tone it down a little bit. Uhhuh,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:38

Deescalate.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:40

right? Because who makes up. NRA. Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:45

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:45

That's who makes it up, right?

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:47

I

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:47

Uhhuh.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:48

Before this, I mean they, in their protests were, their. Rebellion against our protests. They were carrying open arms,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:56

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:57

open

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 6:57

Exactly right. And being applauded for it. Yet when, Pretti shows up, didn't even pull his arm out. Oh, he had magazines. He went there to kill the agents. He went there to cause a, a, a, a chaos

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:14

Caught him.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:15

lock. Yeah. Domestic terrorists. Right. You know, lies just started flying outta their mouths.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:22

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:22

that's the way that fascists operate.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:24

What about that young man from Wisconsin? Was Tyler something? What was

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:28

The black guy.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:29

the white kid with the AK or whatever rifle

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:32

Right. Oh, the rifle. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Right. Exactly.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:37

people.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:38

Yes. Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:39

for

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:39

Right. Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 7:42

of the movement, of the Republican Party as it stands today. I mean, they will try to, set a narrative that. Makes us believe that we are seeing something that we didn't see, or even more importantly, that we didn't see something that we did see, everybody who has eyes, hell, Stevie Wonder could tell you that this was just blatantly wrong. That the way they did, Mr. Pretti, Alex Pretti, in terms of him trying to. Defend a woman, and first and foremost, I just think that, and I know you have a job to do, but these guys are so weak that they think nothing of pushing down. Women,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:21

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:22

men, men, old

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:24

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:24

children,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:26

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:26

have no humility. They have

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:28

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:28

no compassion. For humans, or anybody who's not a part of their movement. And so the hypocrisy that's coming out of the movement when you have, the president and the vice president and the leader, Kristi Noems, coming out and painting a false narrative before. Investigations are held before anybody can come with any verifiable data to suggest otherwise, basically what they're saying is don't believe what you see.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:58

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 8:59

the fact that you saw those guys push a woman down. You saw Mr. Pretti come to her, aid you to then saw them. Pepper, spray, pepper, spray both. The woman, I can't, I don't know the woman's name, but,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 9:12

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 9:14

then they tackled him and they're saying that he resisted, but you got four or five guys tackling you. Are you supposed to just. Just lay down on the ground and take the hit. they tackled him and then they grabbed him and his arms were out front, so you could clearly see that he wasn't

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 9:31

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 9:31

a gun, nor did he have a gun. He had his phone in his hand and shortly thereafter, I don't even think I saw his phone. It probably dropped or they knocked it out of his hand. But one of the guys is, you know, pepper spraying him and then hitting him in the face with the can.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 9:44

Yeah, with the can. Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 9:46

clearly see where. He did have a gun holstered, and they were able to grab his gun and pull it out. And then the guy behind him, the guy who initiated all of this in the first place, he came out with his weapon and clearly shot, Pretti in the back a couple of times. And then there was another, there were two, officers, who, Who dislodged their guns. And in totality there were 10 shots fired.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 10:11

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 10:12

this one defenseless man.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 10:14

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 10:14

Um, so I mean, how many shots does it take really to kill a person? one, but were they ever at risk, were they ever in jeopardy to the point where they felt like they needed to fire a second shot, let alone nine more shots? And so it's just really. Hypocrisy that suggests that here's a man who came within his rights, to carry. He had his CPL he wasn't brand it as they suggested, yet felt to kill this man, to murder this man in cold blood, even though he was, in effect defenseless. Yes, he had a gun, but after you took that gun from him and had him on the ground, was defenseless at that point. And I don't care how many people, are yelled, gun, gun, gun, gun, uh protocol doesn't call for you to just start haphazardly firing shots into somebody's body.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 11:05

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 11:06

That's the shame of it. And Mike, you make a good point. You hate to always make this about race. But I just really, sometimes I flip the script and I try to think of if either of those two, individuals who were murdered in all due respect, not minimizing the fact that they were murdered and they should not have been, but if they were brown-skinned, whether it be Mexican, black, uh, whatever, Indian, whatever, would there have been such a human cry? As it stands. But the beauty of it is. The beauty of it is that, that the people of Minneapolis are coming out in full force. They didn't know that these, incidents were going to occur, so they came out to, defend their city and state

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 11:47

All right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 11:47

to get ice the hell outta Minneapolis. And as a consequence of that, these row. Non-trained officers, as you stated, Mike, are in bulldogging and just running rough shot over the city. just taking advantage and brutalizing people have murdered two innocent people and it's just a, it is really a shame. It's a shame.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 12:10

There's a third person, you brought it up, Keith. There's a third person, Keith Porter Jr.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 12:16

Okay.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 12:17

A 43-year-old father of two was shot by an off-duty ICE officer. Ice agent, I'm sorry.'cause ICE does not have officers. They have agents. Let's be very clear. Yeah. Let's be very clear. Right. There are no officers, they're agents.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 12:34

true.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 12:36

And this happened in California on New Year's Eve. Okay. He was shooting a gun into the air, you know, new Year's Eve,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 12:42

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 12:43

And, this ice guy saw, heard the shots, saw him, ran over there, told him to put his gun down. He didn't, and he just opened fire on him and shot him. And he has no jurisdiction. You know, he should have called the police if that, but because people were shooting guns all over. They're, so what, yeah. If you wanna call the police on'em, that's what you do. You do not have authority to open fire on people. You know that you don't have a warrant to go and arrest a judicial warrant to go and arrest. So, um, yeah. That bring, that was in, north Ridge, Los Angeles. After, this guy shot him, but any, at any rate, yeah. A black guy has been shot and killed by an ICE officer. I said it again, I'm sorry, by an ICE agent.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:31

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:31

And that was New Year's Eve. It's not getting a lot of press. It's not getting, in fact, I didn't know anything about it until earlier today.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:40

I,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:40

Yep.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:40

I did, now that you mentioned it, I did hear about it, but I heard about it in conjunction with the two, deaths in, Minneapolis.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:49

Okay. All right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:50

as kind of an aside, you

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:52

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:52

mention that.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:53

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 13:54

And in total, I think there's been at least six because there, there are deaths that we're not hearing about.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:00

Right, right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:01

who are in custody

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:02

right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:03

no explanation to how they're meeting their demise. And

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:05

right. Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:06

these guys have carte blanche do whatever it is they want to do. And the president of the United States, the fascist in chief, looking the other way. In fact, he is the one who's giving them that authority to be able to operate above the law.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:23

Right

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:23

gonna be an investigation or is this one being swept under the table also and then there is there accountability?

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:29

accountability and swept under the table. It's already started with a gun that was used. Do you know what they did with that gun?

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:36

I hadn't heard.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:37

They threw the gun in the back of one of the cars. They unloaded it, you know, cleared it. They didn't put it in the evidence bag. They didn't date it, they didn't say what it was. They, there was no chain of custody.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:52

Hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:52

So already this reeks this re wow.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:57

is at? Where was his

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 14:58

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Where is his phone again? No chain of custody,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:03

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:04

Right? These, no, no, no. Securing of the crime scene.'cause it's a crime.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:08

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:08

securing of the scene. No chain of custody of evidence. Just they don't care. They don't care. So, yes.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:15

they're protecting their own.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:17

Correct. So yeah, they'll cover it up. They'll do anything they want to. They don't care. Right. They don't care. That's why they cover their faces, a bunch of cowards. That's why they cover their faces.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:24

Now the, commander Gregory Bovino,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:29

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:30

he's been re relocated and

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:32

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:33

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:33

you think it'll reach, Kristie Noem? No. For accountability?

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:37

I don't.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:38

no, because, uh, uh, uh, the fascist in chief was interviewed and I like that term. I'm gonna keep using it. Mike, you

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:43

Yes, sir,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:44

I'm focusing in on that, that fascist in chief has gone on the record as saying she's doing a good job. So, do you get it? Do you get rid of anybody, Tom, who's doing a good job?

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:54

No, you don't. No.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:56

right?

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 15:56

now there have been, some Democrats and Republicans who are calling for her,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:01

impeachment.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:02

her impeachment.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:03

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:04

strongly that she should one, either resign or two be fired, but she's already suggested that's not gonna happen. And of course, again, as I stated, the fascist and chief has clearly said that he thinks she's doing a good job. So if she's doing a good job, I can't see where he would initiate firing. or even asking for her resignation. The third option, I guess, is impeachment that could in effect lead to her, of being. Fired, formally or replaced?

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:31

Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:31

I'm not 100% sure of how that process goes, but I think at her level, if she's impeached, she will no longer hold that position. But, it's a political football now, you know, will there be enough people, who show up to, in fact make sure that happens? Everything has been politicized, so I'm not confident that they would have enough, bodies to, to have a formal impeachment.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:54

Well, the two, uh, republican senators came out today,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 16:59

Okay.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 17:00

um, you know, against, against her, against, no,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 17:04

Okay.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 17:04

and of course the fascists in chief called them terrible. And losers,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 17:10

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 17:10

He went right to his bag. They're terrible. They're losers. You know, what he does. And so there is, say it went to a vote today. Yeah, she would be impeached because all the democratic, senators would vote against her. And if, well, how many Republicans do we need? Just two or three

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 17:33

That's a

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 17:33

for it to happen? I'm not positive of that number, but at any rate, like you said, the fascist in chief is not gonna have her removed. As long as she keeps, spreading lies that he likes, she's doing a great job. You know, no, no evidence of anything. She came out and called him, like you said, domestic terrorists, that he went there to do this, that and the other. And man, that's, that, that's the reality. Just like you said, Keith, up is down, down is up, left is right. You know, diagonal is a square. Now, I don't know anymore. I don't know.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:05

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:06

Oh, I do know. That's,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:07

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:08

yeah. Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:09

haven't lost sight of reality. That's their reality. And anybody

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:13

right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:13

willing to embrace it, and oddly enough, there are a lot of people who's, who are still embracing that reality. It's just, I don't, you know, I don't get. How people can see things with their own eyes and be influenced to the point that somebody tell you to see or believe is what you believe.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:32

right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:33

in a sense, have given up our independence to follow, one man. And it's, it's a scary time that we are in gas.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:40

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:41

I appreciate the fact that people are fighting back or pushing back, I should say.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:44

All right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:45

and Minneapolis is certainly doing all they can to set the pace. And so the blueprint has been established that when he goes into other cities and states that people should show up the same way

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 18:59

right. Yes. Thank you.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:00

are clearly in indicating that.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:03

Uh

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:03

of folks are unhappy with how he's handling,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:06

mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:07

The economy, how he's handling, the issue with ice. And,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:11

Uhhuh.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:11

you know, he's just, you know, he's just sinking fast.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:14

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:15

Is funny how they put the spin on, the people want get rid of the criminals. The criminal undocumented workers immigrants. But the thing is that yeah, everyone agrees to that, but that's not what they're doing.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:30

No. Correct,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:31

up grandmothers, babies

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:34

right,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:34

toddlers

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:35

right, right,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:36

um, people who are here. They have

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:38

right,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:39

So that is not what they voted for. Those who voted for that. That party

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:43

Right. Right.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:44

put them in place.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:45

Well, is.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:46

But now they're in Maine. I didn't know there was, I knew Minnesota has a very large population of Somalians,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:53

Uh huh.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:53

some in Maine also, so now they're in the

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:55

Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:56

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 19:57

Yeah. They gonna, you know, lighten up this country. That's what's going to happen. There's no,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:02

up. What do you mean by lighten up, boo?

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:03

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:05

you know, no.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:05

not by, not by gunfire. Not by gunfire,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:10

meant what he said.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:11

right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:13

Hue.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:13

Off, they cut off all immigration from Africa.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:17

yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:17

Cut off all immigrants, didn't you? You, I think I went over the new numbers, a few shows ago we talked about that.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:24

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:25

That takes effect now.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:26

Yes.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:26

So and now he's canceling work visas nothing. He don't want nothing coming over here

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:31

Right.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:32

from basically from any African country. No. Just know

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:37

No.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:37

you.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:37

it, was south Africa.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:39

Oh yeah. South Africa. Yeah. If you are an African, you can come on over. Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:43

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:44

He'll send a plane for you, give you some money, Yeah. Get you started, right. Oh, yeah.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 20:49

I was listening to, my public radio station. And they were talking about, they were talking to Secretary Jeh Johnson, who was the former. Homeland Security secretary,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 21:00

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 21:01

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 21:02

he, of course, like all Americans is appalled about the situation. But one of his things was, he was saying that the, and which goes back to what Mike was saying about not being trained, he was saying that, the ice. And, CBP not trained for crowd control. That was not their thing. And my, and in my understanding or what I've heard that the, administration or the entities that are running, probably, secretary Nome didn't want the police or the state troopers involved to help police I don't know of the governor of. Minnesota said, no, we're not gonna police this. So I don't know where that, go ahead guys.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 21:47

Able to, Mike. They're not able to. When you look at the number of. Ice agents within that state

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 21:54

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 21:55

and the ratio between the number of cops that are on that Minneapolis has against the ice agents that are in the state, they, it would pull them from. From doing the major work that they do around real crime. Okay? So if you're asking them to support you in your endeavor, now you're looking away from what's going on day to day in the city,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:17

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:18

just an agent of the agents. I mean, you're working in tandem with them, which would prevent you from doing your day-to-day job. And

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:25

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:26

so the governor is saying that's not something that one want to do or that we're able to do, it's, we just can't support that. and so

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:36

I guess I'm talking about not just the daily operations of, picking up people off the street, but as far as the protests,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:43

again,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:43

The demonstrations. The demonstrations,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:45

is right,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:46

yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:47

you're pulling, that's manpower,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:50

every police on the force, but you're talking about manpower

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:55

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 22:55

and if they resort to, the operation, the way it was done in the past. You don't have the same amount of chaos that, that you have now. You have them on purpose looking for the worst of the worst

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:07

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:08

setting up operations so that they can, you know, so that they can get to the worst of the worst. But in this case, they're just running rough shot. They're

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:16

Right, right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:16

said, after kids, after

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:18

right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:18

elderly people, after people at Home Depot, or

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:22

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:22

if you go to eat some Mexican food.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:24

Maria.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:25

it is, you know, it's just their, the whole way they're going about their operation, causing chaos has led to the situation that we're currently in. so they're saying that. The people of Minnesota should refrain and should pull back, they're not willing to change their tactics. They've replaced, what's the guy's name you mentioned earlier at time?

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:50

Gregory Bovino.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:52

Bovino.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:53

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:53

they've replaced him or,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:55

Or Tom, Tom Holman.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:57

Which six or one half dozen of the

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 23:59

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:00

Tom

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:00

is worse.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:01

He actually was under the Obama administration in that, department.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:06

Yeah. Well, president Obama did, deport a lot of people.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:10

They said

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:11

A lot. Yeah, a lot. And that's where most of the criminals went.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:15

But

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:15

Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:15

about it?

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:17

No,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:18

I knew about it.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:19

it was done in a

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:20

wait. Yeah,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:21

chaotic.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:21

Oh, oh, oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:23

killed in the

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:24

No, no, no,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:26

no.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:26

no.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:27

Yes. And I don't think that anybody would argue that. I've said it myself during one of the podcasts. If you're here illegally, there's an argument to be made. Legal illegal.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:38

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:38

break the law,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:39

right,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:40

Right, right. Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:41

to do what it is we want to do.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:43

Yep.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 24:44

I don't think anybody would argue the fact that if you're here illegally, then you know you have to do the right thing. And whether. it's self deport or get your paperwork in line, then do it, or be allowed the opportunity to do it instead of being shipped to someplace that you're not even familiar with. You're not

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:00

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:02

back to where you're from.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:03

Right.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:04

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:05

To places unknown. And so there's a way. To go about doing these things that are more peaceful. There's ways that would be supported by, whether it be Republicans or Democrats. I think, like I said, if you really were to take a poll, I think when you talk about legal and illegal, most people are against illegal acts. And so

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:24

Oh

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:25

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:25

support something that's illegal. Uh, and so if you do the right thing and do it the right way, you'll have the support that you need. But to say that you're going after the worst of the worst, and

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:36

Right. And then, right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:37

that,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:38

right?

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:39

right, right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:40

that's where the issue is.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:41

Exactly. Yeah, that's

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:42

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:44

Everybody in the country is in agreement. Get rid of the bad guys.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:47

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:48

Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:51

Well,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:51

Absolutely. Um.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:53

I.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 25:54

Well, you know, it is what it is. That's the world we live in. I was watching JD the other day on TV saying, that this was right after the Pretti shooting. He was saying, they need to work with us. They're making it hard for us to do our job. And what you were saying about the police support, like Keith said, they. If the police don't have, it's not enough of them to support that operation. But he was saying, they need to support us. If the police would work with us, if the local officials would support us some more and work with us some more. This wouldn't be happening, blah, blah, blah. Dude, when a fascist regime tries to operate in a democracy, it's supposed to be difficult,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 26:41

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 26:42

period.'cause you're not supposed to be operating here. You're not supposed to be here. So, yeah, a fascist, if you're gonna operate in that manner, yeah, they're gonna make it difficult for you.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 26:52

Mm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 26:53

Like you, like we said, president Obama didn't have this issue.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 26:57

Right.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 26:57

They certainly cooperated with him when, he coordinated. I say he coordinated, the department, coordinated,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:03

Mm-hmm.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:04

Uh, with the local people, let'em know what's happening. They had their judicial warrants, not, administrative warrants. Real judicial warrants to go in and remove these people, and he removed them by the millions

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:14

Right.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:16

Bottom line, it didn't get the press, but like, you know, we didn't, people weren't being killed in the streets, but the fascist needs press it gotta have some press. And when stuff like this, it just feeds his ego. And he just wants more.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:32

Yeah.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:32

wants more. That's all. That's what's happening.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:34

The press part for me is okay. I think we have to have a free press so that we can

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:39

Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:40

times what's going on. The problem for me with. Them using the press Fox being a perfect example, is the amount of misinformation

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:49

Right. That's what mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 27:51

And for him to say that the states, in this case, Minneapolis or Minnesota's not working with them, according to the mayor, that's a complete fallacy

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:00

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:01

They have somebody in custody they release that person, the first thing they do is let Homeland Security know. They let them know so that they can do what they need to do. To, you know, to arrest,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:14

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:15

or,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:15

Uh uh,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:16

person, whatever it be

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:17

Uhhuh

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:17

may,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:18

Uhhuh.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:19

The communication part, to the mayor, I'm not a part of the government, of Minnesota or Minneapolis, is that they are working intently. However, too much like Wright, that's not getting to the numbers that. That he promised. And I think that's the gist of it, maybe there are not as, as many illegals as they supposed there were. And as a consequence, he's all about looking good in the numbers.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:49

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:50

so when you start to ship out people indiscriminately, you

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:54

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:56

of errors, there's a lot of mishaps. There are deaths

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 28:59

Uh

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:00

to happen. And to your point, that's how fascists operate.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:04

mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:05

and misinformation.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:06

Uh.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:07

Chaos and misinformation.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:09

funny, I've heard this phrase before, but I actually had to look it up the day'cause they started using it here. On the news I was watching, ghosting.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:17

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:18

And ghosting is basically, the George Orwell thing, you know, telling you that, um, like you say Keith, all the time up is down and down is up. You know?

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:26

Mm-hmm.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:27

Um, but I was like, oh, okay. This is what ghosting is all about.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:31

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be a great day when it when we can look past this and it's just in our rear view mirror.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:39

Yeah

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 29:40

that's what I have to say. I know that a lot of pressure is being put on, the fascist in chief and his minions, and they're starting to speak in a way that would lead you to believe that things might change. De-escalate is the catchphrase now for the fascist in chief pulling back or minimizing, using words like that. But until they do something, until they take action. It's only words, I just cringe at a thought of, somebody who's doing whatever they're doing at this moment that we're having this podcast, to them joining the movement, the protestors and not realizing that, they could in fact lose their life because it could happen again.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 30:23

Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 30:24

I mean, it happened so quick on the heels of, Renee Good's, murder. It's just frightening to think that it one happened so quickly, we can't take it for granted because it could happen again soon. And

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 30:36

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 30:37

part. We have to continue to, to talk about it. We have to continue to, speak the truth because, like I said, the misinformation, if you really, if you don't check in into it for yourself. Or if you embrace what they say being a de maga loyalist, it'll be hard for you to recognize what's true.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 30:57

right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 30:57

We have to, we really have to stay in the game and be aware of what's going on. And a lot of people, I don't like to watch the news or it's too depressing, or, you know what, it's reality. It's our reality.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:06

Uh.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:07

The more you know, the better off you are. so, you know, for me, you know, not to prolong it, but for me, it'll be a good day when we can put this in our rear view mirror. And it's just, us looking back and saying, remember when,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:21

May.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:21

When we have a conversation, you

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:23

Mm-hmm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:23

forward about how bad it was then

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:26

Right. Yeah.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:27

right now.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:29

Yeah. We'll be all

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:30

Yeah.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:30

in our rocking chairs

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:32

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:33

With our tablets in front of us doing FaceTime to each other.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:39

Right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:41

But what we

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:41

right, right,

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:42

good old days or just the old days,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:44

just the old days. Can't call it good. Can't call it

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:47

right. No, no. Right.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:49

good.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 31:50

Not at all. Not at all. Um, the MAGA Make America Go away. That's what apparently that stands for now. So, in closing, gentlemen, I'd like to change the subject real quick. There's a terrible ice storm going on across the country.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:12

Yes, there

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:13

freezing here. The wind chill on, Friday is gonna be around negative 20 or so.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:19

Or 30 I heard.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:20

Oh, man. Whoa. And did you know that the administration. Didn't want the weather service and the, weather reporters using the term ice so much

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:31

Yes.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:31

and talking about this storm

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:33

Yes.

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:34

because of the negative connotation that ice, you know, if they say, oh, a ice storm is coming, they'd be, oh, we're afraid ice is, you know, you just, it's, it's, it's too much. It's too much. It's just too much, man. It's too much.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:46

Just to add a little bit of humor to that. I saw something, I don't know how true it was. It was, it was on Facebook, so you had to take it with a grain of salt,

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:53

Mm.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 32:54

Was somebody who was an avid MAGA supporter. They said they would be glad to see when the name is officially changed, and they put a N in front of ice so that when people speak about ice instead of saying ice, they'll say.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 33:09

Nice.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 33:10

Nice. So,

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 33:15

Right.

keith-b--pickens-_1_01-28-2026_161507 33:15

oh yeah, semantics is important.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 33:18

Oh

mike-miller_1_01-28-2026_161507 33:18

Right, right, right.

thomas-corley_1_01-28-2026_161507 33:20

Absolutely. All right guys.

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